Now, before I start of with my woes, I would just like to say that AutoResponse Plus, when installed under ultimate conditions, is a superb software. Before I switched to Aweber, I was using AutoResponse Plus for a year without a single twitch. Mmmm… maybe just one or two but never something that was major enough to be a big problem.
It’s definitely one of the better followup autoresponder scripts. Very powerful indeed. In addition to several of the more common autoresponder features such as:
- Unlimited followup autoresponders
You can create unlimited lists, with unlimited followups. - HTML, multipart and text format
You can send out your broadcasts and followups in the above formats. The only thing that’s missing is a WYSIWYG editor. You will need to paste raw HTML, which can be a pain when you need to change just one word in your messages. - Subscribe and unsubscribe via email
Nothing out of the ordinary. Here are some of ARP’s features that I REALLY like
- Advanced subscriber filter.
You can filter your subscribers using just about any data that you find important, for example: list they are subscribed to, subscription format, date of subscription, status of subscriber, IP address, where they subscribed from, which messages they have received …. - Allows the subscription and unsubscription of subscibers remotely.
With this feature, you can add and remove a subscriber from a list using a remote script. For example, I had itworking with my membership script. Each time I get a member, they are automatically added into the member list in ARP. And the would start getting the member followups. - Headers and footers.
You can set your own headers and footers for each list. And when you send a broadcast, you can select from any of the headers and footers. - Advanced tracking.
Not only can you track open rates and clickthroughs, you can also track where your subscribers come from. And not just that, you can set a different thank you URLs to forward each one to upon successful subscription. - Flexible actions.
You can make subscriber from list A to be added to list B or list B AND C at the completion of his followups in A. Or have him removed from A when he signs up to B. Or have him loop again through the list A messages. Why you would want to be able to do all this, I don’t know. But it’s great to know that you can do it.
So, in short, AutoResponse Plus is a pretty cool software …. when it works.
A few months before my switch, I began to notice various problems. It all began when my broadcasts were not sending. A few hundred would be sent without a problem and then it would stall. I would re-start the broadcast and it would get to a bit more than the previous broadcast and then again it would stall.
And then finally, when I finally managed to send my broadcasts to all my subscribers, I noticed that my open rate remained at 0. Which was impossible, since I subscribed myself to my lists with different email addresses.
A problem with the tracking script was probably the reason but then it got me thinking. How many of my subscribers ARE getting my messages. There was no easy way in ARP to check the likelihood of my messages making it through the spam filters.
And then, the biggy. My web host had to disable ARP because
it is causing the server a heavy threat and has ultimately crashed Mysql and cPanel server’s. We had to take necessary steps to stop this crash so we have disable the scripts.
What???!!!
What could that possibly mean? I’ve been running it for a year now and then this? So, I wrote to support and here’s what they had to say:
The server mysql process had crashed and cpanel service was interupted and inconvenienced the other clients on the server. The cpanel on the server had to be upgraded and then the process was restored.
The ARP process was in danger of crashing the site and server. This is no fault of your own.
Specifically, AutoResponse Plus (ARP) was increasing the load when its cron function was executed and this nearly resulted in crashing the entire server. This is not your fault at all. It’s a problem that is a nuance of AutoResponse Plus.
When we previously informed the script’s author of this problem 2 years ago, he immediately declined to address it, blaming it on various web hosts and their server configuration/policies — rather than admitting there was a problem. We were then promptly removed from his list of ‘preferred’ installers, presumably because he did not wish for us to comment on the unstable nature of ARP3.
ARP3 runs wonderfully with a few lists/groups (less filters to run, ie, fewer processes to increase the load). However, in my own personal experience with using ARP3 for 5 years, the longer you run it, the more unstable and slower it becomes. This is a widespread phenomenon So it’s not related to anything other than the way the script was coded to begin with.
Hmmm… I did notice that my web host and several other web host were removed from ARP’s preferred web host list. The only web host left (the last time I checked) was ThirdSphere hosting.
I don’t know whether what my web host claims is true or not but they have been of a great help to me in my many years hosted with them. They’ve gone beyond the call of duty many times, just so I can stick to my addiction of doing things myself.
So, should I switch host or autoresponder script? Script, of course. I searched the net for another script and then started thinking, what if other scripts have similar problems and I only find out about it a year down the road?
Do I really want to go through all this again? Finding a script, installing it, making it work and then it does this to me?
Perhaps it would be easier to just sign up with an autoresponder service. Much easier.
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May 12th, 2006 at May 12, 2006, 2:40 pm
I would love to know what you ended up doing, im having the same problems with arp3.
Les
May 13th, 2006 at May 13, 2006, 10:44 am
Les, I gave up and switched to Aweber. Mind you, I lost quite a number of subscribers this way because of Aweber’s double opt-in requirement.
But I figured that if they didn’t bother to click on the confirmation link, they either are just not interested enough in my mailings or my mail was caught up in some filter and just didn’t reach them. Either way, it’s best to have them off the list so I can get more accurate results in terms of tracking my list responsiveness.
If you want to stick with ARP3, the only other option is to switch to ThirdSphere Hosting.
September 1st, 2006 at September 1, 2006, 5:56 am
I got a similar message from my host (not 3rd sphere). We’d got 250,000 subscribers. It was causing the same problems. My solution was to pay a lot more for a virtual web server.
I don’t know the cost of keeping 250,000 names on aweber is, but I imagine it’s prohibitive.
arp3 is still a great tool, but users have been waiting in vain for four years for improvements. Now they’re promising RSS - which is not something that users have been asking for.
September 11th, 2006 at September 11, 2006, 8:04 pm
Hi Kit,
Thanks for updating us with your condition. Since I switched to Aweber, I’ve never looked back.
September 28th, 2006 at September 28, 2006, 8:07 pm
The response I received recently from Thirdsphere is that you’re lists combined should not have more than a thousand subscribers.
This is unacceptable for anyone who’s looking to make money over the internet (rather than just have a web page up as a hobby) and, based on this response from them, I don’t recommend using ARP in conjunction with them.
September 30th, 2006 at September 30, 2006, 8:21 pm
Hi Keith,
Thanks for letting us know. Looks like Thirdsphere is out of the picture. Anyone using ARP successfully with their host?
May 6th, 2007 at May 6, 2007, 3:11 pm
Hi Bina,
Just found your blog article through google.
I’m also at the point of deciding whether to go for AWeber or set up my own autoresponder.
A couple of questions here:
1) Out of curiosity, did you finally switch over to AWeber?
2) How do you tackle moving the membership customers automatically to your mailing list? Don’t think AWeber support such integration without double opt-in from membership users.
3) Do you also have experience integrating ClickBank/2CO with AWeber. I’ve asked AWeber, and they said after someone purchases something from the website, I have to present a second from to ask them fill in the name and email AGAIN for submission to AWeber!
4) Since you have been using ARP3 for some time, believe you have considered “List Mail Pro 3″ too. What do you think about the software? Is it as good as ARP3?
5) Believe you have evaluated GetResponse against AWeber too. Any particular reason that makes you go with AWeber as oppose to GetResponse?
Would greatly appreciate if you could give me some advice.
Thanks and Regards,
/wynn
May 18th, 2007 at May 18, 2007, 5:36 pm
Hi Wynn,
1)Yes, I switched to Aweber and still with them.
2)You have to go through the Aweber’s opt-in process. One thing you can do is to offer your members an irresistable gift for signing up to the new list.
3)Sorry. I don’t use ClickBank/2CO with Aweber.
4)I’ve never tried List Mail Pro 3.
5)GetResponse is pretty good as well, in terms of features. The only thing about GetResponse is that it offers a free version which MIGHT increase the spam rate associated with a GetResponse account but then again, I’m sure they would have figured out a way around this.
June 1st, 2008 at June 1, 2008, 2:06 am
Hi there,
I’m trying to install autoresponse plus by myself. But I always seem to find error. Do you guys know how to install the correct one? I already follow the install guide but still can’t..
If anybody have the picture or video how to install it, it will be so great help for me.
Thank you
June 3rd, 2008 at June 3, 2008, 5:34 am
Hey All,
Just wanted to add my 2¢ to the thread.
Regarding “Approved Hosts” being removed. I can’t speak for the owners of AutoResponse Plus, but I will tell you that I only work with and recommend ThirdSphere Hosting. Why? Three reasons.
Reason # 1: They have great customer service that is very responsive.
Reason # 2: They work with me, when necessary, to solve customer problems.
Reason # 3: They allow email sends of, up to, 10,000/hour, up to 20,000/day (this is their Shared hosting, Dedicated hosting numbers go up to 500,000)
Some AutoResponse Plus users were having their account disabled because their host only allowed 50, 100, or 1000 email sends per hour. ARP will send 5,000/hour without any special adjustments. Needless to say, any host with those email sending limitations, was removed from our ( http://www.ARPros.com ) approved host list. Any other reasons are our competitors trying to scare people.
Our company, ARPros.com, has been using ThirdSphere Hosting for 4 years with very few problems. I like their configuration and recoomend them all the time.
Full disclosure: No. I don’t have stock in them. Yes, I’m an affiliate. But, I’m also an affiliate at 2 other hosts.
AutoResponse Plus was developed using a subscriber base of 125,000. Email list were tested with a minimal number of bounces. Bounces or Undelivered Mail places a huge burden on the server resources.
AutoResponse Plus is very resource intensive. I tell people if you want to send more than 30,000 emails, get a dedicated server. We also do Tuning and Optimization for AutoResponse Plus and it’s MySQL database. We have a custom script we developed for a list of 279,000. Really, anytime you want to do mailing over 100,000 you should have your AutoResponse Plus setup reconfigured.
Another issue that we have seen is, your ARP runs, then pause. You restart it. Your ARP pauses again. This continues
This could be caused by several things:
- Your ARP has bad data in your list database. MySQL is your database and will stop processing email sends when it is asked to use unacceptable data.
- Your ARP and MySQL need to be tuned and optimized.
- Your MySQL server needs to be tuned and optimized.
- Your ARP MySQL is being shared with other applications and they have a problem. Their error cause ARP to appear that it has a problem.
- Or, any combination of the above.
Point of reference/credentials, I have:
* worked with ARP since 2002
* run a forums ( http://www.arpguru.com/forums/index.php ) and Help Desk ( https://arpguru.com/amember/member.php ) on ARP issues
* done customizations and custom programming on ARP ( http://www.arpros.com/arpconsult.php )
* developed 2 install process - normal is 36 - 48 hours ( http://www.arpros.com/arpinstall.php )
* have more tha 2 decades of software development experience
* a M.S. in Information Systems Engineering
… bottom line is I think I know a little about AutoResponse Plus